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| The proposed Marriage and Divorce law allows women to divorce their husbands if they are impotent. It also spells out how to divide property after divorce. Have your say |
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| Am Fascinated by some Ugandans authored by Benedict Musungu on 17. March 2010 at 20:30 |
Am fascinated by the reasoning of some ugandans today, by the way, where do some people think they are heading? It would all seem they do not know their various destinies. In my opinion, I do not think there is any serious mature ugandan who especially ladies who can enter marriage well knowing the inteded husband is impotent, and if one does so, then she is after the wealth not the marriage.
Why should one go ahead to marry an impotent man. I think we should be realistic at times, here is where courtship plays a big role in marriage so that some of these funny stuffs can be solved. this law is only securing wealth for the ladies.
In any case, after how long is the marriage to be considered?, if one stays with a lady for a week and she intends to move, is it to be considered?
Fellow Ugandans, it is a high time we woke up to reality and began discussing developmental issues. |
| REMAIN DISENFRANCHISED OR BE HAPPY! DIVORCE? authored by Kandole Patrick on 14. March 2010 at 13:02 |
Marriage essentially is seeking happiness. a favorite restaurant, shop, school... must giving you the customer service and care you expect and pay for. No No am not saying marriage is a restaurant, just a service, and long term commitment to this service, until death? Death? That is where the problem is.
And to share property. The sharing is the problem considering that the inputs vary considerably. And what if one had all this property before marrying.
are we also saying that if a woman is maimed during the marriage time we should divorce that woman.
Importance may be a result of long illness. In this case divorce but leave the man with his property because even if a woman stays she will go with other men. This will result into jealousy and may end in murder.
so it in practice the correct thing to do depending also on the age of the woman or if she cherishes sex so much that she can ignore anything else. there are women who have remained solo even after the death of husbands, to keep the husbands glory.
The solution is to end this fallacy of until death and resort to term contracts. and contracts should state the sharing of property, which are communal. What if it is an inheritance, should another party who did not contribute to its existence take it?!
Marriage may be shunned by young people if they feel that a woman may take him on and shortly after cause a divorce so that money and property is taken. We hear American women brag after divorcing rich and successful men and yet they did not contribute to their wealth. Is this fair? the marriage law should be fair to both men and women, it should not be a case of settling old scores.
men may fear to create wealth if it is just going to be taken away any how.
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| Amari Mama! authored by Sherrie Sutton on 31. January 2010 at 14:30 |
I'm only here to share my heart. The idea's I have are not my own, but were instilled in me by the one I call Heavenly Father. We humans tend to be naturally thoughtless and uncaring... when our own self-focus is prevailing. To do the right thing requires one to dig deep where the truth is and make difficult choices sometimes, better to sacrifice for another than to leave them to suffer alone. If you walk away without regard, then you will walk right into the consequences of not choosing right over wrong.
Ephesians 5 vv 22-33 22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the savior of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. 25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. 28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourished and cherished it, even as the Lord the church: 30 for we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.
In America we marry who we want and divorce whenever we want...but this is not right. God had a perfect plan and when a man and woman come together as husband and wife, they become One Flesh. What was intended as two parts for one purpose is now a broken thing that will never be mended. Sure...it’s permissible to part but life is not going to trade for a perfect life without sorrow. There is nothing new under the sun, it still rises and sets on everyone the same.
God opens and closes the womb of a woman by his wisdom. Let this barren woman ask any mother... is having a child painful...from the womb to the tomb it is. ~~~Sing, O barren, You who have not borne! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, You who have not labored with child! For more are the children of desolate, then the children of the married woman, says the Lord.~ Isaiah 54:1
God made woman for man to stand beside him and be his helpmate, and God commanded man to protect and adore his wife. Not everyone was put here to populate the earth. I love Uganda, it is why I'm here...I come from my own land of luxury and riches to your land to hold up the hurting, and help the poor. What kind of woman is this that would leave her husband knowing there are thousands and thousands without a mother? In the oldest of days allowances were made for divorce, but God later explained He's always hated divorce...the people's hearts were hardened then...same as now.
So if I could have my say, I would tell people they should be free to choose who they want to marry, and they should choose to stay married...and anyone who would dare walk away...they should walk away with nothing. The man should even get the cow back he paid for her.
How will we live with ourselves to wound a man and then turn and pour salt in it? Sure everything is permissible, but life will teach you soon enough...not everything is beneficial.
Jesus came from heaven and stooped down to our level to set the record straight. Believe in him, love God and love people. He made a sacrifice to pay a debt he did not owe, we are unrighteous...not Him. All these laws and traditions of men will burn in the end. Woman if you are out there, choose God's way and not man's ways. Cry out to God, He will hear you and he will comfort you. Then come join us in a village and look for a child who sits naked so deserving to be loved. Listen, you will hear him say "Amari Mama"
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| Marriage authored by fred on 14. January 2010 at 14:33 |
In the case of divorce, I would love to see wealth being shared in the ratio of "who bought what" If I built a house before getting married, why should my spouse take it? The debts and lossed should also be shared.
On the issue of impotence, the major reason why people marry is to have sex. If sex is not enjoyed in marriage, then there is no marriage but two people living together. Its ok for women to divorce impotent men. |
| islam had a solutionn already authored by khasifa ninsiima on 14. January 2010 at 11:57 |
islam,the way ,the truth and the light already has a solution for the now existing problems in the world.Marriage,divorce and impotence already have a laid down solution in case a question about them arises.
In order to remove the misery of an unsuccessful marriage, Islam supports divorce as the last and final resort only to liberate both the spouses from the bitterness of the relation.
In Islam ,divorce can only be pursued when all other avenues have been taken to reconcile the couple but have come to no avail.
The grounds on which a wife can seek divorce from her husband in the courts are:
-Inability or refusal of the husband to maintain his wife (even if she happens to be rich, it is still the full -responsibility of the husband to maintain her).
-Abuse / mistreatment (which includes beating and swearing, cursing and attempting to force her to do wrong).
-Impotence of her husband (in recognition of the wife's legitimate instinctive needs).
-Incurable, repulsive disease in the husband or insanity.
-Extended absence or desertion by the husband:
The case of impotence of the man is left to the woman to decide in Islam, and that can depend on things like whether the man was impotent from the start of the marriage.
In the bill, bridal wealth or bride price is set to be abolished meaning it is not a prerequisite for marriage. But if a suitor decides to pay bridal price, whatever he gives will be considered bridal gifts that are not refundable upon resolution of the marriage according to the bill. i support this part of the bill cause for sure,why should parents ask for expensive things for exchange of their daughter who is going to be taken to a muzigo yet that money can be used for constructing ahouse or starting a better living for these newly wedded to be.
other proposed ammendments like failure to share property within all the wives of the man is unreal in the muslim world.i hope this bill is not directed to muslims too cause the sharia laid down for muslims how they should lead their marriage life. |
| my mind authored by Sanders Warner on 3. January 2010 at 15:55 |
my mind tells me that if you married in church,your decision is irreversible as they clearly state for you conditions and you agree by yesss I do. that's an agreement you cant bleach no matter what.
But with civil marriage by all means if one is no longer interested in marriage they can divorce,so long as they give a valid reason and impotence is a good reason especially if she wants to bear children.keeping her in that marriage is barbaric. however you could allow her to get children from another man.that will definitely not work,and we are left with one alternative;divorce.
Brenda Holland you should know that this law is for all Ugandans,how do you expect an average Ugandan to prove the man is not impotent before marriage? get kids first or take expensive tests?
There is no valid reason someone should be stuck in a bad marriage that's the reason men will take you for granted.Brenda Holland you may never divorce your man even if he is impotent coz you know what he means to you and you know how much you value children but other people may want children and not adopted. besides its a free world and people know wat they want those who wish to divorce will,and those who think its not worth it wont.
But if the law is not passed some women will be pressed,we don't want to see that. |
| authored by Brenda Holland on 28. December 2009 at 20:21 |
Okay first of all, before you even think about walking down the aisle with somebody, get to know them both inside and out.
I don't in anyways condone divorce and i would never ever divorce my husband because he couldn't have kids.
When you promise to love someone through thick and thin and til death do you part, you are meant to mean it and not just say it for the sake of it.
That is not grounds for divorce, the only time i would really divorce my man is if i caught him cheating.
Because its written in the Bible that Adultery is the true grounds for marriage that God permits.
So to me, this is bogus and stupid, if you gon marry someone then you better prepare to marry all of them and not just some of them.
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| divorce is ok. authored by sserunjogi Herbert on 27. December 2009 at 00:50 |
| the only reason two adults should stick together is because they are genuinely happy if nt they should do all in their power to be happy. If all all fails they should divorce,share the wealth and move.its useless to stay in a non-functional marriage. |
| Freedom of divorce is against our cultures authored by Biar Peter on 22. December 2009 at 14:19 |
We must not erode our cultures in that manner by granting a total freedom of divorce to women. Excuse me, I may seem bias to one sex but that is not the case. In African Traditional Society, unnecessary divorce is an abomination and a curse, bringing big shame and family instability, and we must not completely shift away from this. We know properly how our mothers and sisters are, and if we allow such profound freedom of divorce and share of wealth, then we are encouraging those women who might be at wrong in the management of domestic affairs. That law should be revise if it's passed. Alternatively, give women the right to divorce if impotent but the right to have a share in husband properties.
Biar Peter------------in Addis |
| authored by mugarura.batpol on 19. December 2009 at 10:07 |
This bill does not benefit men at all, its just only giving women a chance of grabbings their husband`s property and money. you see when you marry a lady u pay bride price and some other monetory things and when u divorce they do bring back those things u paid 4 the lady and yet a lady didnt came with any thing. why should i share my things with her even when she has not produced any kid for me?..
if am impotent, i should leave her to get married some where and loose anly what i paid as bride price, "OK". a man is not who made himself impotent pliz, this bill is politically wrong 89% so its below the average . boaz kampala international university western campus. |
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