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| TO MARIAMS TXT authored by malit on 13. November 2009 at 02:19 |
Mariam what u see are not decisions being made by people that are updated with information to international level i would think because if they are they would improvise with other land.
Sorry , but which land any way if we have so many companies that are poluting the enviroment, for years people are growing black market GM(geneticaly modified crops) and pestsides with no knowlege of the side effects to the soil,we have no emmission law to contral vehichle emissions,not forgeting trafic jams and poor road conditions that increase the amount of fuel we consume,we drop more waste productes (plastics and chemicals) into land fields which causes green house gasses causing land degradetion and poor agricultural soils.
And the only remaining natural enviroment we have to cut down the carbon emissions and gassas we produce we are cutting down.
We soon seeing more carncer types and rates going up more children with disabilities.
Development is good i dont know iF these people are looking at the future effects OR even setting up ways of controling these effects. if any one knows late me know because i think we are developing to first with out proper health standards and finacial resources to change the damage.
WE ARE CHEWING MORE THAN WE CAN HANDLE YET.
MONEY CANT BY HEALTH ( FRESH AIR ) |
| MABIRA FOREST authored by malit on 13. November 2009 at 01:34 |
READING SUCH NEWS BREAKS MY HEART. WHY IS UGANDA THE PARL OF AFRICA? OR IS IT STILL THE PARL OF AFRICA WHEN WE DESTROY IT`S ENVIROMENTAL BEAUTY.
CAN I REQUEST THAT NEW VISION START A SECTION ON GLOBLE WARMING, CAN SOME ONE READ AND PUBLISH SUCH INFORMATION FOR THE PEOPLE. WE NEED THIS INFORMATION FOR THE GOOD OF OUR COUNTRY AND THE PEOPLE OF UGANDA FOR THE OLD AND NEW GENERATIONS COME.
PLEASE.
SOME WRITE FROM THESE BOOKS;
THE HIDDEN CONNECTIONS (BY FRITIOF CAPRA)
INDEFENSE OF GLOBALIZATION(JAGDISH BHAGWATI)
HOW TO CHANGE THE WORLD (BY DAVID BORNSTEIN)
UGANDA IS MENTIONED IN BITS OF THESE BOOKS BUT HOW COME WE ARE HAVING SUCH DECISIONS BEING MADE BY OUR POLITICIANS. ITS ALARMING. |
| why mabira authored by Mwesigye Hillary on 29. August 2009 at 10:13 |
| Not even 10% should be removed from Mabira. can u imagine someone leaving his/her country enjoying green environment and comes here to make us die?what does NEMA working on this issue?its everyone's responsiblity to fight against this. |
| who are the looneys in goverment? authored by MARIAM on 2. August 2008 at 14:11 |
Hi,
Can someone try to explain to me why investors cannot buy any other land to grow the sugarcanes other than Mabira forest. I think development is great, encouraging investors even better but do we have to sell them our national treasure. Enlighten me, is Mabira forest the only place sugarcanes can grow in Uganda? As the rest of the world is tr ying so hard to go green we on the other hand planning to cut down Mabira forest. Where is the logic here, do the people surpporting the sell have any other reasons for doing so apart from self interest?
Mariam |
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| Rain Forest authored by Eugene Souza on 19. January 2008 at 08:40 |
| The rain forest belongs to everybody, but most of all the Ugandan people because that rain forest is in Uganda. When I was in Uganda December to May 2007 it was shown by the Uganda people in general that they don't want it sold. When you have Indian people and Ugandan people that live peacefully and start fight ing violently over something like this, it shows they do not want it cut down. This is another way for government to show money is more important than their own citizens. Some Indian people I spoke with do not want the forest cut and most Ugandan Africans do not want the rain forest cut down. Don't people understand that once this is sold and destroyed it will never come back. That rain forest is worth more than gold. Its just not saving the world or the atmosphere but culture, sacred land, peoples land. Go after Kony, let the forest live. |
| there is no more mabira. authored by Robert Maseruka on 12. September 2007 at 22:02 |
When I went home a few months ago, I took a lot of intrest to find out what exacxtly is
happening with our mabira.You might not believe what Iam about to say but it the
truth,to my suprise the only mabira remaining is not even 1 mile from the main road.
people have cut all the trees and cultivated differnt types of crops.
So I 100% agree with the government to put larger investors than seeing "Mayuuni"
a few years to come. |
| authored by David Otim on 24. June 2007 at 15:04 |
Dear Readers,
This out-cry over Mabira forest brings me to three quotes by some wise people:
"We must protect the forests for our children, grandchildren and children yet to be born. We must protect the forests for those who can't speak for themselves such as the birds, animals, fish and trees." - Qwatsinas
"It is man's sympathy with all creatures that first makes him truly a man. Until he extends his circle of compassion to all living things, man will not himself find peace." - Dr. Albert Schweitzer (Nobel Peace Prize) French philosopher/physician (1875-1965)
"The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way it's animals are treated. ...I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man." - Mahatma Gandhi - Hindu spiritual leader (1869-1948)
Destroying Mabira and planting sugar does not make Uganda a great nation, but rather a cruel monster to creatures which cannot speak - the birds, the animals, the insects, the trees; and that demonstrates out point of weakness. There is vast land out there in countryside. True dev't and industrialization is when new industries are willing to be started elsewhere like the vast plateaus of Soroti, Gulu, Masindi, Ntungamo, Mubende or Karamoja. We don't have to dislodge birds because we can speak and they can't!
David Otim
dotik3@yahoo.co.uk. |
| Mabira and Sugar plantation authored by Elizabeth Baganda on 4. May 2007 at 23:51 |
| Who does not know that Sugar is dangerous to our health? It causes Blood pressure. Why do most old people have blood pressure? Think about this. SUGAR IS REALLY THE POISON in slow death! |
| To Sandra:Be Objective - Look right, left, then right again before you cross the road of rhetoric. authored by Peter on 22. April 2007 at 05:27 |
"1. I support whatever policies the govt takes to industrialize the economy, job creation and eradication of poverty ... " Sandra.
Dear Sandy! "Whatever policies"? To you when it comes to industrializing the economy the end justifies the means, right? What do you think you can hand down to future generations as an everlasting heritage, if you are bent down on the immediate economic results which the forum members repeatedly have told you and me, are mere peanuts with Methta? Do you look beyond your nose?
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"2. mabira forest as most people imagine it does not exist, as matter of fact the trees you see when u drive along Jininja road is more or less what’s left, so in other words the “ forest” has already been destroyed due to tree felling for firewood ..." Sandra.
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Sandra! Try to be serious. The people of Uganda were not demonstrating for an imaginary forest: Mabira forest exists. To you, what you seem to see when you drive along the Jinja road is trees, but to US Ugandans, that is MABIRA FOREST: A national natural resource and heritage of generations in offing! So please do not minimize the forest reducing it to more or less a few trees! Stand warned!!
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"3. We should be asking, some questions like: what is the acreage of mabira, ? How much is being allocated to? Where is it located vis-à-vis catchments areas , tourist activities then we can have a healthy debate, as it appears no one is asking these questions, maybe if we did then those opposing the degazetting might change their minds." Sandra.
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'...as it appears no one is asking these questions...' Are you sure no one does, Sandy? In other words all those concerned Ugandans in and outside the country do not know what they are talking about yeah? Last Thursday's demonstrators, to you Sandra, were just a group of NON-QUESTIONING Ugandans and Sympathizers that had arrived to such a conclusion by mere coincidence or chance, even to the cost of their lives, right?
Besides, the forum discussants -in one way or another - have either raised up these questions or given answers to the implicit questions. The problem with you is that you seem to believe to be the first and only one to have raised these questions: Do not illude yourself Sandra. Restassured, it is not true.
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"4 .remember the bujagali dam saga ?? the issue was ??environment and then what happened a few years ?? later, power cuts every other day. We should learn from our past!!!.these environment/nature arguments are not going to get us out of the economic mess we are in. the reality is the donors do not have our best interests at heart until we as Ugandans get over this we will always be dependant on aid." Sandra.
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Destroying the environment is not a solution to the economic problem Sandra, get it right! Uganda depends highly on agriculture and rain has its catchment areas on forests/environment. If you destroy them in order to attain your industrialization of the economy with its peanut earnings (Mehta is not a new enterprise in Uganda, its history of paying peanuts to peasants is known), remember you are affecting the economic state of a larger population of Ugandans. Try it dear, we shall come for your neck coz then 'the end will justify the means'.
Mabira, besides its ecological and national/cultural importance, is not the cause of dependence on aid, rather it is a source of tourist income to the country. Also be objective in your reasoning, it will do you academic justice and win you honesty.
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"5. The opposers of this event aren’t offering any constructive arguments on the contrary they are resorting to the barbaric , archaic practices of intimidation and threats of death , disaster, violence etc, its quite mind boggling that the other day a MP was reported to have said that mehta would be killed for asking for mabira!!can u believe such backwardness ??the opposition has decided they will oppose everything and anything the govt puts up and yes they will do it with violence and of course unsuspecting ugandans have jumped onto the band wagon, lets face it these guys have another agenda, its got nothing to do with the common mans interests, maybe I have missed the talks but I would love to hear what the opposition policy is on 2 core issues security and the economy." Sandra.
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'The opposers of this event aren't offering any constructive arguments...' They (opposers) are not offering any constructive arguments BUT YOU ARE, right? What a rhetoric! what self-complacency!! What a patronage!!!
Why don't you be sincere to yoursef and do justice to ugandans. If not, then atleast have respect for the forum members who have variously 'OFFERED' CONSTRUCTIVE ARGUMENTS in regard to this event.
If you think you are the unique thinking logos in regard to the event, I'm sure you need help. Constructive and unconstructive arguments surely they must have offered somewhere - in this forum or in other papers and radios etc. Now it is your turn to do justice to yourself - be objective and reductive of views to your narrow personal view. Know you are only a fraction of a larger whole.
In conclusion, besides industrialization of the economy, there are the cores issues of security and patronization, among others. Ugandans - in my opinion - did not go to demonstrate without having digested the political and economic situation. The Mabira saga is just the last straw that broke the camel's back. There are a series of events that have made the patience of the citizens to run out: Court siege, teargas in the squares, military violence on citizens, political arrogance on opposition leaders, name it. And democracy???
We need leaders who are concerned of their citizens are consult them in issues of generale/national importance succh as the mabira saga. One man or in this case, one woman cannot pretend to be the holder of all truth to decide for all what is right as you seem to suggest in your above quoted list of reasons.
Probably you need to descend from the 'skies' of academic reasoning to the 'reality' of praxis with its entertwining difficulties. Good to reason but not simple to put to practice certain ideas: Mabira give-away of 7,100 acres, even if it happened (Always God forbid!) may not resolve the unemployment and industrialization problem of the country. Probably, in a few years, we shall be back to Kampala streets crying over the spilt milk of a destroyed Mabira forest: But it will have been too late. SANDRA MABIRA FOREST IS NOT ONLY FOR YOU AND ME BUT GENERATIONS TO COME. WE MUST SAVE HER.
Good luck. |
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